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Al Jordan



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"Sunday Seminar" , Sun 6 Aug 07:04: post reply


This could save someone a week!

I have a small 3/1 house I'm selling (L/O)w/ a huge fenced in back yard. This is a great little house in a decent neighborhood. Everyone that calls or sees the houses goes on and on about how they love the yard. They all love the location (it's beside a church) and can't get over how "neat the house looks." So, a couple calls, we go through the same routine, they have to have the house and we'll close in roughly a week and a half. Since I didn't have any other offers I told them I could hold the house until then if they would give me a $500 binder. Now, we're 2 days from closing and I can't get the buyers on the phone. I finally called them from a pay phone and they picked up! Now it's 9:38pm the night before we close and I get a phone call explaing that they aren't going to close after all. This isn't really that bad of story, but holding the house caused me to miss two buyers that would pay more. Those buyers we're ready to pay NOW. Now, I've got to start over. Luckly I showed it to a couple yesterday that loves the house and would like to close on Monday. Here we go again!
Al
BTW, they gave me the $500 in cash. Wheew!

[this message was edited by Al Jordan on Sun 6 Aug 07:07]

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Megan



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"Re(1):Sunday Seminar" , Sun 6 Aug 09:51 post reply


I would like to add one thing about our having held that property. We did agree to hold it for them for $500 cash, but we did not take our ads out of the papers nor remove the sign from the yard. In essence, we continued our marketing efforts, only agreeing not to sign anything with anyone else during the specified period of time. We did, however, show it and take applications.

With these factors in mind, I consider it, to some extent, as though we gained $500 for doing what we would have been doing anyway. Yes, a couple of buyers did come along during that time claiming to have more money, but I have quickly learned that when buyers sense competition, they have a tendency to promise themselves into the poorhouse (assuming they aren't already there). Would these suppposedly cash-laden buyers followed through had they not been aware of other buyers already in line? Who knows, but I'm not going to sweat it.

Al and I are steadily assuming the position that when "disaster" strikes, we will make it a point to discover how it must actually be a blessing in disguise. In this case, this couple may have been able to come up with the Option consideration, but very likely may have defaulted later on in the middle of it. I'd rather pocket $500 cash now than have to remind them that their Option consideration and payments, etc., are non-refundable after they default a year from now and are bitter.

At the very least, that $500 covered one months payment on our end. Not bad. I'd take $500 from defaulting buyers every week of the year and never sell the place. HA!

We'll keep ya'll updated on what happens on our extended L/O sale adventure. Thanks for listening!
Megan

Doug Pretorius



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"Re(1):Sunday Seminar" , Sun 6 Aug 08:44: post reply


Next time, first come first serve, but the investor waits for no one :)

This does bring up a question. Just how easy is it to L/O average properties like that one? I admit I'm a bit nervous about getting a property and not being able to get someone in!

Doug

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lynnhahn



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"Re(2):Sunday Seminar" , Sun 6 Aug 10:41 post reply


Selling on lease-option is pretty much like selling lemonade in the Sahara.

Only exceptions that we have found are:

1) Asking way too much (down, monthly etc.)
2) Expensive homes take longer to sell, but I have never been stuck with one.

Lynn

 

Doug Pretorius



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"Re(3):Sunday Seminar" , Sun 6 Aug 11:06 post reply


I have to ask, what IS "way too much"? Let's take an example of a deal I have some chance of getting.

It's a 3/2 semi, great shape, good neighborhood (house #1 in my previous list.) Payments are about $1100 PITI.

If I get it, it will be for the mortgage balance of about $120,000 (and I get the equity I build up between now and exercise.) FMV is $125,000 on a good day. FMR is roughly $1000.

I thought I'd L/O for $135,000, $1200/month, 5% down, 1 year with 2 renewals (price and payment going up each year.)

This all sounds pretty reasonable to me. What do you think?

Doug

 

lynnhahn



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"Re(4):Sunday Seminar" , Sun 6 Aug 11:37 post reply


It's really hard to gauge. In my area a $135K house would bring between $1200-$1300 per month, so your numbers look pretty good to me. You just have to get to know your area, and it looks like you have a handle on it.

3-5% option consideration is common. We shoot for 5%, but we are sometimes willing to take 3% up front with payment arrangements to pay the other 2% within a short amount of time.

If you make the price too high people will think you are trying to rip them off. Just because they are motivated buyers doesn't mean they are stupid.

We personally try to do one year lease-options, but never more than two.

Lynn

 

Megan



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"Re(4):Sunday Seminar" , Sun 6 Aug 11:29 post reply


Just to add some more info re. our selling approach on this one:

FMV is approx. $50,000
selling on L/O:
Asking: $53,000
5% down
payments of $600 mo. (less than market rent)

We've had it about a month now but can't find buyers with the 5% down, which I don't intend to be flexible on. I think we're offering a solid opportunity, not gouging anyone in the process. Would you say that a month is taking too long on a low-end house such as this?

By the way, the house is in great shape, needing only updating in the kitchen. Main problem I can see, it's not the best neighborhood, but it's not going to be in this price range.

Megan




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